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Mary Sedillo
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:46:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:I don't believe I've ever seen a game that gave out equal rewards to the winning and losing sides. Maybe if they gave people an incentive to actually win the match, we'd have less garbage matches where the enemy team just sits on a tower or in the red line and snipes the entire game, beginning to end? Every match I've played today has been like this.
Its not more profitable to lose, its just people not wanting to lose ISK in a match that is already lost --
It is not fun nor fair to allow the winning team to completely camp the enemy spawns and suck at the teet of spawn kills.
The opposing team does not OWE you there deaths. You are not entitled to them.
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Mary Sedillo
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Posted - 2013.08.04 21:00:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:First things first, the risk vs. reward + time involved at the controller is ludicrous for AFK farmers I understand what your saying, its not about punishing people for loosing. Its about rewarding the team that wins more significantly than the players that do nothing. If ISK were based off of WP or rank in a game it would make things much more interesting. Basing it on rank for example, if there are 16 players on your team and those players must split 4.125 mil ISK so:
- 500,000 ISK
- 475,000 ISK
- 450,000 ISK
- 425,000 ISK
- 400,000 ISK
- 375,000 ISK
- 350,000 ISK
- 300,000 ISK
- 250,000 ISK
- 200,000 ISK
- 150,000 ISK
- 125,000 ISK
- 100,000 ISK
- 75,000 ISK
- 50,000 ISK
- 25,000 ISK
Yes you could lower it so first place gets _ _ _,_ _ _ ISK and it drops from there, but this gives a reasonable starting point. Or basing it on War Points would give less specific numbers but they would be more closely tailored to what you did in each match. Here is one example of an Aprox value for WP, yes it scales and isn't a direct ratio: 3000 WP = 1000,000 ISK 2500 WP = 800,000 ISK 2000 WP = 600,000 ISK 1500 WP = 400,000 ISK 1000 WP = 200,000 ISK 0500 WP = 150,000 ISK 0250 WP = 100,000 ISK 0100 WP = 50,000 ISK 0000 WP = 0 ISK With either of these or the current system if a +25% for winning and a -10% on ISK earned (there is no reason to do it for SP) in a match winning would become much more important to people. There would still be the people that AFK farm for ISK because they can make ISK and SP with 0 effort. A simpler solution would be to kick people who are in the redline for more than 3 minutes. Simple solution that gets rid of the ISK farmers camping in the MCC the entire match. It also stops redline snipers and a lot of other issues with the redline. Kicking them also gives no ISK.
ISK rewards system = GOOD
Redline kick idea = BAD |
Mary Sedillo
Pure Innocence.
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Posted - 2013.08.04 21:06:00 -
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Kinky Burrito wrote:Mary Sedillo wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:I don't believe I've ever seen a game that gave out equal rewards to the winning and losing sides. Maybe if they gave people an incentive to actually win the match, we'd have less garbage matches where the enemy team just sits on a tower or in the red line and snipes the entire game, beginning to end? Every match I've played today has been like this. Its not more profitable to lose, its just people not wanting to lose ISK in a match that is already lost -- It is not fun nor fair to allow the winning team to completely camp the enemy spawns and suck at the teet of spawn kills. The opposing team does not OWE you there deaths. You are not entitled to them. This is not about games that are already lost. This is what people set out to do from the beginning of a match because there is no incentive to win. I myself push objectives, go 20-5 in an advanced suit, and maybe come out 20k isk ahead whereas they make 150k+ for doing nothing.
Pics or it didn't happen. |
Mary Sedillo
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Posted - 2013.08.05 01:16:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I don't know about that...i spend 1,000,000 isk trying to fight a Pubstomping squad the other day, i finish 1st in my team with 1400 wp... and i got rewarded with 250,000 isk..WoOw!! The following battle i sniped in the red-line, killed a couple of guys.. and make 200,000 isk profit.  It is more profitable to DON'T try...or to be more precise.. to DON'T PLAY.
Such simple minds...
Do you ever consider that the people you did kill were wearing expensive ****?
Perhaps you were at the top of the board in a team of tryhard do nothings?
All of you AFK panzies, you should maybe go outside if actually playing the game is too much for you.
You get almost no rewards for what you do, while I regularly am pushing 200-300k a match actually fighting. |
Mary Sedillo
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Posted - 2013.08.05 07:50:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:Mary Sedillo wrote:Kinky Burrito wrote:I don't believe I've ever seen a game that gave out equal rewards to the winning and losing sides. Maybe if they gave people an incentive to actually win the match, we'd have less garbage matches where the enemy team just sits on a tower or in the red line and snipes the entire game, beginning to end? Every match I've played today has been like this. Its not more profitable to lose, its just people not wanting to lose ISK in a match that is already lost -- It is not fun nor fair to allow the winning team to completely camp the enemy spawns and suck at the teet of spawn kills. The opposing team does not OWE you there deaths. You are not entitled to them. This is not about games that are already lost. This is what people set out to do from the beginning of a match because there is no incentive to win. I myself push objectives, go 20-5 in an advanced suit, and maybe come out 20k isk ahead whereas they make 150k+ for doing nothing. Or some of them just camp because they love making you mad lol
By the way, your attack on our property today?
It went badly for you folks.
Very badly.
Just saying. |
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